DKCraft Minecraft Server
DKCraft Minecraft Server => Server News => Topic started by: DeeKay on July 19, 2014, 06:19:09 am
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The point of this thread is fairly straight forward. The server is nearing it's third year towards the end of this year, and since then we've never had a full server wipe.
I have no problem with leaving the server how it is, and I have no problem with giving it a fresh start either, so I'm going to leave it up to the community to vote on this, since it is you guys who use the server.
I'm going to give a bit of information to those who may be freaking out and spamming the "No".
1. All worlds would be available for download after the wipe.
2. The following things will be passed on after the wipe:
- Bans
- Ranks
- Non physical donation rewards. Mob Disguise, Hats, Teleport, Multiple Homes, Donator Membership.
This is open for discussion, so share your thoughts below. Do not pester someone to vote for what you want.
Voting will end September 1st, so you have a while to think about this.
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Will the wipe clear out both worlds or just the older of the two?
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I think the server wipe should come to pass since OHMYGOD you made so many people trusted
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I dont support this idea so I'm gonna have to go no. It's just I've worked so hard on my base and I don't want it to go to waste. My idea would be when 1.8 comes out and CraftBukkit brings out 1.8 to take the server down for a bit restart and redo the plugins.
Just a thought.
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I think the server wipe should come to pass since OHMYGOD you made so many people trusted
Huh?
Will the wipe clear out both worlds or just the older of the two?
All worlds would be wiped, and brand new ones would be made.
My idea would be when 1.8 comes out and CraftBukkit brings out 1.8 to take the server down for a bit restart and redo the plugins.
Just a thought.
What do you mean by redo the plugins?
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Sadly I'm going to have to go with no, though I do believe that the old world is overdue for a restart the member world is just too new even though I would love to start fresh I just can't bear the thoughts of unfinished projects.
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Like recode them for 1.8 don't you have to do that?
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Like recode them for 1.8 don't you have to do that?
I'm not sure what that has to do with having a server wipe?
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oh ok
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Will we lose our money ?
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I feel that a server wipe is necessary due to the fact that most everything has been explored and done which was one of the reasons I haven't been on much. With this restar I will be able to look for and build new things and watch dkcraft rebuild itself.
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Will we lose our money ?
Most likely yes.
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Personally I would like to see a fresh face of the server, giving a clean slate for the upcoming 1.8 would be nice due to how large the 1.8 update is, this could even open up possibilities and idea's of any change to the server, survival play wise? I vote yes, but I would wonder what would be done about spawns, shops, etc.
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If it includes the Member world, then it's a downvote from me.
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Would both the old worlds be up for download?
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Would both the old worlds be up for download?
If they were the guest world alone would at least be 2 gigs if not more given the size
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Ive been on the server for quite a while, watched it grow, and i want to see it grow even more
With a clean slate.
Plus worlds will be up for download
Broke the 4 to 4 vote tie
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I vote yes, but I would wonder what would be done about spawns, shops, etc.
Still thinking about this, but I'm not gonna jump into anything too soon.
Would both the old worlds be up for download?
Every world would be available for download, including all Nether and End worlds.
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+1 for new worlds. About September 1st, will that day / the day after be the day when the world will be wiped?
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+1 for new worlds. About September 1st, will that day / the day after be the day when the world will be wiped?
No, it's only when voting ends. If the majority of votes say yes, we'll most likely give a few months until the wipe actually happens.
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I think the server should restart. I joined sometime in July when everybody was already in full diamond and all that. I would like to start from the beginning again.
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So we would lose 'physical' donation rewards, like protection sponges and spawn eggs? It's bad enough that I went and bought disguises that don't work (and STILL haven't gotten any response from you on whether or not they WILL work at some point), but having to replace things like the protection -- since you have no other method in place -- or my cats that you were nice enough to put in the store for me, only to have them be taken away?
What about funds we've earned since then -- in-game monies and vote points?
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So we would lose 'physical' donation rewards, like protection sponges and spawn eggs? It's bad enough that I went and bought disguises that don't work (and STILL haven't gotten any response from you on whether or not they WILL work at some point), but having to replace things like the protection -- since you have no other method in place -- or my cats that you were nice enough to put in the store for me, only to have them be taken away?
What about funds we've earned since then -- in-game monies and vote points?
On the topic of disquises, as of 1.7.10 Mc uses uuids instead of just a player name to differentiate players all plugins before that used player names plugins like disquises craft are yet to be updated to use uuids deekay is most likely waiting for an update
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I think we should be able to keep our money if a reset DOES happen.
I have an idea, but I need to research it and make sure it would work.
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I've wanted a wipe for awhile, a nice clean slate with clean spawn and warp towns would be nice. Losing my bigger builds would suck, but that's what downloading and screenshots are for.
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I think we should be able to keep our money if a reset DOES happen.
Well I can think about both sides of this. Of course everyone wants to keep their precious money that they earned over time but if we were to keep it, it would get rid of the whole idea of a "clean slate." I bet most people would use their money to re-buy resources, and tada! No more clean slate!
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I feel it may be a bad idea not to allow people to change their vote, sure you gave plenty of time to make a decision, sure you stated we couldn't change it, but some people who may have been sure of their decision at first could of been convinced otherwise later, through general discussion.
without allowing people to change their mind you may get invalid data.
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So we would lose 'physical' donation rewards, like protection sponges and spawn eggs? It's bad enough that I went and bought disguises that don't work (and STILL haven't gotten any response from you on whether or not they WILL work at some point), but having to replace things like the protection -- since you have no other method in place -- or my cats that you were nice enough to put in the store for me, only to have them be taken away?
What about funds we've earned since then -- in-game monies and vote points?
First of all I've never received an email or PM from you regarding mob disguises, so you can go ahead and tick that off your list buddy.
Secondly, I'm not sure why you think this is an attack against you. If you haven't noticed, this is a community vote for a server wipe, and nothing has even been set in stone yet.
I understand losing sponges and spawn eggs will suck, and half of that is my fault not looking into the future to see a wipe happening, but providing these rewards anyway. So if the wipe was to happen, I guess I'd have to allow people like you with the option to get your other donation rewards back, if that's the way it is. I would have like to have thought that a clean slate would count towards re-gaining donation rewards also, but money is money, and I can't argue that.
As for Mob Disguises, Minecraft/Bukkit underwent a lot of code changes, and therefor a lot of plugins need to update/test before they can reach the latest Bukkit version. Since I always want to run the latest Bukkit version, Mob Disguises is just one of those plugins that becomes outdated, and that I must wait to be updated.
I feel it may be a bad idea not to allow people to change their vote, sure you gave plenty of time to make a decision, sure you stated we couldn't change it, but some people who may have been sure of their decision at first could of been convinced otherwise later, through general discussion.
without allowing people to change their mind you may get invalid data.
I guess you're right, you can now change your vote.
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Is it possible to wipe one world at a time?
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Unfortunately I don't support or like the idea, I've worked for many hours on my projects and stuff.
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Unfortunately I don't support or like the idea, I've worked for many hours on my projects and stuff.
Your projects would be up for download, they wouldn't be gone... you just wouldn't be able to play with them in multiplier, besides you would be able to mess around with anyone and everyone's build.
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Unfortunately I don't support or like the idea, I've worked for many hours on my projects and stuff.
Your projects would be up for download, they wouldn't be gone... you just wouldn't be able to play with them in multiplier, besides you would be able to mess around with anyone and everyone's build.
Dude if it does happen I'm going to turn the guest world spawn into a warzone...
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Is it possible to wipe one world at a time?
Why yes, but the point of a full wipe is to reset practically everything, so all the worlds would end up being wiped anyway. Unless you had an idea.
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Is it possible to wipe one world at a time?
Why yes, but the point of a full wipe is to reset practically everything, so all the worlds would end up being wiped anyway. Unless you had an idea.
Why not clear everything (inventories included) but keep the player.dat files? Allow everyone to keep half or maybe a third of their in game money it'll please some and keep it relatively balanced
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Is it possible to wipe one world at a time?
Why yes, but the point of a full wipe is to reset practically everything, so all the worlds would end up being wiped anyway. Unless you had an idea.
Why not clear everything (inventories included) but keep the player.dat files? Allow everyone to keep half or maybe a third of their in game money it'll please some and keep it relatively balanced
Not sure what you mean by keeping player.dat files, as that's what's used to store player inventories.
As for halfing player balances, Essentials simply doesn't give any kind of tool to do that, so it's either clear player money or keep player money.
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If a reset DOES happen, I think we should do it when 1.8 comes out so we can have a fresh updated world.
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If we do have a world reset we should do it every 5 updates since most take 3-4 months each it'll give at least a year every reset
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If a reset DOES happen, I think we should do it when 1.8 comes out so we can have a fresh updated world.
I agree with this statement.
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If a reset DOES happen, I think we should do it when 1.8 comes out so we can have a fresh updated world.
I agree with this statement.
Same here
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If we do have a world reset we should do it every 5 updates since most take 3-4 months each it'll give at least a year every reset
It also depends on what updates. The next 5 updates may or may not be major world updates.
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If we do have a world reset we should do it every 5 updates since most take 3-4 months each it'll give at least a year every reset
It also depends on what updates. The next 5 updates may or may not be major world updates.
We won't be having many of these wipes. But I think 2.5 years with the same stuff warrants the consideration of one.
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
You wouldn't really lose your things, you would just have them in single player instead of multiplayer after you download the worlds...
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I vote yea for server wipe.
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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If you wanted you could import it using Multiverse onto a bukkit multiplayer server?
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Any world can be downloaded and played in any way, that includes a multiplayer server. You don't even need Multiverse.
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Any world can be downloaded and played in any way, that includes a multiplayer server. You don't even need Multiverse.
Wait.. are you saying it can be donwloaded onto DKCraft? Sorry I'm not clear on this :/
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Any world can be downloaded and played in any way, that includes a multiplayer server. You don't even need Multiverse.
Wait.. are you saying it can be donwloaded onto DKCraft? Sorry I'm not clear on this :/
you know how you save a single player world... like that. It will be a folder which you can drag into single player or a server and use the map. Meaning if you ever wanted to burn down spawn you can get the world save and light it!
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Any world can be downloaded and played in any way, that includes a multiplayer server. You don't even need Multiverse.
Wait.. are you saying it can be donwloaded onto DKCraft? Sorry I'm not clear on this :/
you know how you save a single player world... like that. It will be a folder which you can drag into single player or a server and use the map. Meaning if you ever wanted to burn down spawn you can get the world save and light it!
So does this mean stuff can be re-downloaded onto DKCraft?
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No i dont think the server should be wiped because all of the players have built so much including me and i dont want to lose my stuff i think this server is best the way it is and people ahould not lose there things so my answer is a big fat NO!!!!!!!!
The worlds will be up for download. Just think, you can download the worlds and play them in single player or set up a LAN network thingy and play with your friends if they're over at your house or something. You can do WHATEVER you want in the world, you don't have to worry about other players' builds!
At least that's the way I'm seeing it. After all, I don't think a server wipe would be all that bad, considering the server has been around for nearly 3 years. That's amazing. It'd be nice to see the server with a fresh face. And this way, everyone can start out with a new update, in a new world, playing with their friends they've made on the server.
So, you can only download them onto singleplayer? I've worked on my city and all that stuff for other people to enjoy as well, and LAN only works if you have the same IP. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Any world can be downloaded and played in any way, that includes a multiplayer server. You don't even need Multiverse.
Wait.. are you saying it can be donwloaded onto DKCraft? Sorry I'm not clear on this :/
you know how you save a single player world... like that. It will be a folder which you can drag into single player or a server and use the map. Meaning if you ever wanted to burn down spawn you can get the world save and light it!
So does this mean stuff can be re-downloaded onto DKCraft?
Uhh, what, huh? Not sure where anyone said that.. so let me break this down for you:
- You will be able to download the world files.
- You can play on these worlds in singleplayer.
- You can play on these worlds on YOUR multiplayer server.
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Hi,
Personally, I think the server should be reset for various reasons.
#1: The server is getting very 'over-populated' and running out of space for people like me to go out and build.
#2: After 3 years of the same map, there is nothing new to enjoy, not many nice, new biomes to explore, making the experience not so enjoyable.
#3: Due to the map being very run-down after all the random stuff being built around and left there, I have seen people come online when only I and one other player is on and they stay for around 2 minutes, walk out of spawn, and see all the random stuff built outside and around spawn. It's not very appealing for them and does not help (perhaps make the area which people can build a bit further out and give people time to look around first).
#4: I just think the server can use a bit of a change.
Thank you,
Regards,
Zanster | Zanny
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I feel like we should do this once in a long while. Like 2-3 years. I've played other servers and they wipe out the server every 3-4 months (1 wipe for every season!) and it's just really annoying. So yeah server wipe. Plz
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Super excited for this. I think the server will be full of life again after this.
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You know what, I'll cast my vote for yes, at first I was against the restart, but now that I think about it, the best thing about Minecraft and it's updates is that it encourages you to begin anew, and I think this fresh start will bring life back into our server, I'm excited for this new start. ~DJ
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Thank you to everyone who has voted and given their discussion so far, your feedback on this has been awesome!
You have little under a month until the poll closes, so make sure you get your final vote in.
Cheers everyone!
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Will VotePoints be possibly transferred when the server is reset?
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Will VotePoints be possibly transferred when the server is reset?
Ehhhh, I don't see why not, it is a relatively new feature. I just need to set a line between things I should keep that won't give players an immediate head start.
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I just started playing on this server a few weeks ago, and since then I have had a very difficult time finding a place to build. There are many houses and such that don't seem to be being used anymore but they are in the way of building. I think a reset would provide an excellent opportunity for new players like myself to find a place to build. So far the server seems great though so thank you for providing us with a great server to play on! :)
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If a reset DOES happen, I think we should do it when 1.8 comes out so we can have a fresh updated world.
Much agree
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Looking forward to having a wipe. It will allow people to explore more and mine new resources etc which have previously been taken before people can get them making it harder for some to get money. it will also inspire new buildings and communities. #wipeit
Thanks for reading the deep emotional speech- Killer_tom
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Well yeah I agree the wipe should be when the 1.8 update comes out but I'm really sad to loose all our stuff... hopefully we can save some things in an ender chest...
But starting fresh would be nice lol ....
And also if the wipe does happen does anyone know if our money is kept?
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Well yeah I agree the wipe should be when the 1.8 update comes out but I'm really sad to loose all our stuff... hopefully we can save some things in an ender chest...
But starting fresh would be nice lol ....
And also if the wipe does happen does anyone know if our money is kept?
During a wipe everything is lost, what's the point if people get a massive head start?
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well idk I really don't think we all want to loose ALL of our stuff so the head start would make things easier or valuables that we had like saddles and such yanno?
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well idk I really don't think we all want to loose ALL of our stuff so the head start would make things easier or valuables that we had like saddles and such yanno?
The vote is for a full server wipe. You can't vote yes with the intention of keeping some of your stuff.
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Will we lose our money ?
Its a server reset.. Yes
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he said it right in the op..
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The update for 1.8 is suppose to be on September 2,2014 according to the Minecraft wiki and it has not lied to me yet.
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The update for 1.8 is suppose to be on September 2,2014 according to the Minecraft wiki and it has not lied to me yet.
Thanks for that info! What great timing for the poll then, a total coincidence lol
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The update for 1.8 is suppose to be on September 2,2014 according to the Minecraft wiki and it has not lied to me yet.
Thanks for that info! What great timing for the poll then, a total coincidence lol
Confirmed, deekay is a robot from the future!
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I was reading somewhere that bukkit is dead. Is this true?
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I was reading somewhere that bukkit is dead. Is this true?
For lack of a better word, yes it's dead. It's the reason there hasn't been much progress on the server update or wipe, I'm still letting the situation fold out, because there's not much more anyone can do right now.
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I was reading somewhere that bukkit is dead. Is this true?
For lack of a better word, yes it's dead. It's the reason there hasn't been much progress on the server update or wipe, I'm still letting the situation fold out, because there's not much more anyone can do right now.
If enough of our plugins switch to sponge would we switch over along with them? At the moment I seecit as the only option...
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I was reading somewhere that bukkit is dead. Is this true?
For lack of a better word, yes it's dead. It's the reason there hasn't been much progress on the server update or wipe, I'm still letting the situation fold out, because there's not much more anyone can do right now.
ok so will the wipe happen without bukkit or will we wait and see?
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I was reading somewhere that bukkit is dead. Is this true?
For lack of a better word, yes it's dead. It's the reason there hasn't been much progress on the server update or wipe, I'm still letting the situation fold out, because there's not much more anyone can do right now.
ok so will the wipe happen without bukkit or will we wait and see?
Well we could update without bukkit if you don't like, having amoney, sethome, ohome etc. Most plugins need bukkit to work
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If enough of our plugins switch to sponge would we switch over along with them? At the moment I seecit as the only option...
Right now I've been slowly following Sponge's progress, and although it seems like a great option in the long run, it's not the greatest thing to be hoping for if we want an update soon.
Don't get me wrong, I love what they're doing. Right from the get-go they've been doing an amazing job, and I support every aspect of Sponge. All I can say is I will keep my options open for anything.
ok so will the wipe happen without bukkit or will we wait and see?
Pretty much what pujols said. We could in fact update to 1.8 right now using Minecraft's official server software, but that would obviously mean 0 support for any plugins, which I don't think would go down very well.
As stated above, I'm going to be keeping my options open for anything at this point, and I will be keeping everyone up to date with anything I have planned.